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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #999
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Tue, 6 Sep 94 Volume 94 : Issue 999
-
- Today's Topics:
- * SpaceNews 05-Sep-94 *
- ADDRESS FOR GLB ELECTRONIC?
- Comment 05/09/94 23:40
- Cucamonga Club?
- HERE's a tough one for you
- Looking for Morse code trainer seen Dayton
- New ham - advice IRT 2M
- RFI Free PC Computer Cabinet?
- Scout Jamboral Radio Station
- University Club Mailing List
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Sep 94 14:16:49 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: * SpaceNews 05-Sep-94 *
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SB NEWS @ AMSAT $SPC0905
- * SpaceNews 05-Sep-94 *
-
-
- BID: $SPC0905
-
-
- =========
- SpaceNews
- =========
-
-
- MONDAY SEPTEMBER 5, 1994
-
-
- SpaceNews originates at KD2BD in Wall Township, New Jersey, USA. It is
- published every week and is made available for unlimited distribution.
-
-
- * SKY WATCH *
- =============
- In September's evening twilight, Saturn shines in the east-southeastern
- sky just above the horizon. By nightfall it is fairly high and bright,
- appearing as a golden point of light to the naked eye. Because Saturn is
- closest to Earth this year, it will attain a magnitude of 0.5, located in
- the constellation of Aquarius. Saturn may also be found by looking for
- the bright star of Formalhaut in the constellation of Piscis Austrinus
- which has a magnitude of +1.2. A small telescope will reveal the complex
- system of orbiting rings and moons. The largest moon, Titan, appears as
- an 8th magnitude point near the planet. Also Saturn's rings are now only
- 7 degrees from being edge on as seen from here on Earth.
-
- Near the bright star, Spica, one can find Venus shining at a magnitude of
- -4.4 when the month begins. On the evening of September 8, Venus and the
- young Moon will pass each other in the western evening sky. On the evening
- of September 20, Venus wil reach it's greatest brilliancy at a magnitude of
- -4.6. If Venus is seen through a telescope, it will be found to be in a
- wanning crescent during it's brightest, showing us here on Earth, only half
- of it's brilliancy.
-
- Jupiter is finally getting a rest after the tremendous impacts it suffered
- in July from the fragments of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9. But Jupiter is still
- the second brightest planet after Venus, shining at a magnitude of -1.8 and
- can still be seen in the constellation of Libra. On September 1, Jupiter
- can be found about 15 degrees to the upper left of Venus and as the month
- passes, Jupiter will slide toward Venus in the western twilight sky. On
- September 9, Jupiter will be near the young crescent Moon. Watch for
- Venus, Jupiter, and the Moon on the evening of September 8 as the three
- approach each other. This will be a fine view for the astrophotographers
- who specialize in planet combinations.
-
- Mercury can be found in the evening sky this month, but will remain very
- close to the horizon. Because Mercury will be so close to the horizon, it
- will probably be hidden from view this month.
-
- Pluto can be found in the constellation of Libra and is in the southwestern
- sky just after sunset. But it shines at a magnitude of +13.8, so it will
- take a telescope of at least 8 inches to see the tiny point of light in the
- dark sky.
-
- Uranus and Neptune, magnitudes 5.7 and 7.9, lie in the south after sunset
- during September in the rich starfields of Sagittarius.
-
- Mars is the only planet that will rise a couple hours before dawn this
- month, in the eastern sky. On September 1 the wanning crescent Moon will
- be just below Mars.
-
- [Info via Dave, N9JUW]
-
-
- * WEBERSAT-OSCAR-18 NEWS *
- ==========================
- WEBER-1>CAST <UI>:
- 27-Aug-94
-
- *Collecting and Sending WOD
- Week2: All TLM Ch# 3C 3D 3E 3F 40 41
- *New Images
- *Monday, New Spectrum
-
- 73, IK3WVJ
-
-
- WEBER>SPECT <UI>:
- Spectrum #00 taken 20:55:36 28-Aug-94
- arrays: +X:321340 +Y:0 -X:15400 -Y:0 +Z:2790 -Z:0 (uA)
- sun angle: el 1 az 90
- horizon sensors: 1:190 2:223 s:84
- temp:-1.65 to -2.24 C
- average = 202.03 stddev = 572.54 pkdev = 519.18
- 40000...417FF .........
-
-
- * MIR NEWS *
- ============
- The Mir space station apparently suffered no hits from the recent Perseid
- meteor shower. Several particles collided with the space station during
- last year's meteor shower.
-
- The PROGRESS-M24 freighter was scheduled for launch Baykonur on 25-Aug-94
- at 1425 UTC. Listeners in Western Europe were alerted listen for
- transmissions related to this launch on the known frequencies (166.140,
- 166.130, 165.874 and 922.755 MHz +/- Doppler) 3 hours after liftoff.
-
- Instead of 4, only 2 EVAs will be made by Malenchenko and Musabayev. These
- EVAs are scheduled for the 8th and 12th of September 1994. Their purpose
- is to transfer solar panels from the Kristall to the Kvant-1 module.
-
- The launch of Specktr (Module-O) has been delayed once again. Now there is
- word that the launch will take place in May 1995. Undoubtedly, this will
- also mean that the launch of Priroda (Module-E) will be put back too.
-
- The schedule for American flights to Mir might need to be changed due to
- Spektr launch delay. No further details are available as of yet.
-
- [Info via Chris v.d. Berg, NL-9165/A-UK3202]
-
-
- * MORE MIR NEWS *
- =================
- Ascending nodes of Mir are currently taking place almost directly under
- the Sun. It is crossing the terminator close to its extreme northern and
- southern latitude excursions. As a result, Mir will be visible shortly
- before sunrise in the southern hemisphere, and shortly after sunset in the
- northern hemisphere for the next few weeks. Consult your favorite
- satellite orbital prediction software for the exact times for your
- location.
-
-
- * SAREX NEWS *
- ==============
- The STS-64 Space Shuttle Discovery Mission, tentatively scheduled for launch
- on September 9 at 20:30 UTC, will carry SAREX voice and packet radio on a
- 9 day mission. STS-64 will carry the Lidar In-Space Technology Experiment
- (LITE-1), the SPARTAN-201, and the Robot Operated Materials Processing
- System (ROMPS) experiment in addition to SAREX into a 57 degree inclination
- orbit.
-
- Amateur Radio operators on Discovery include Dick Richards, KB5SIW,
- Commander, Blaine Hammond, KC5HBS, Pilot, and Jerry Linenger, KC5HBR,
- Mission Specialist. Primary callsign for FM voice contacts will be KB5SIW,
- while W5RRR-1 will be used for packet radio contacts. All operations will
- utilize separate uplink and downlink frequencies. DO NOT TRANSMIT on the
- downlink frequency!
-
- Voice Freqs: Downlink: 145.55 MHz (Worldwide)
- Uplinks: 144.91, 144.93, 144.95, 144.97, 144.99 MHz
- (Except Europe)
- 144.70, 144.75, 144.80 MHz (Europe only)
-
- Note: the crew will not favor any specific uplink
- frequency, so your ability to work the crew will
- be the "luck of the draw"
-
- Packet Freqs: Downlink: 145.55 MHz
- Uplink: 144.49 MHz
-
- The Goddard Amateur Radio Club station, WA3NAN, in Greenbelt Maryland will
- be active and carry SAREX Bulletins and Shuttle Retransmissions on 3860 KHz,
- 7185 KHz, 14,295 KHz, 21,395 KHz, 28,650 KHz and 147.450 MHz (FM).
-
- The following Keplerian elements have been rotated to the current planned
- launch time of Sep 9 at 20:30 UTC. The JSC-005 epoch is at the start of
- orbit 5, after the trim burns on orbits 3 and 4. The negative drag fit was
- required to match the design trajectory because there is a 6.5 fps trim burn
- on orbit 28. The phasing and circ burns on orbit 99 lower the altitude by
- about 8 n.mi, so the second element set JSC-006 is required after that.
- These Keps are provided by Gil Carman, WA5NOM at the Johnson Space Center
- ARC.
-
- STS-64
- 1 00064U 94253.10077961 -.00030838 00000-0 -39665-4 0 59
- 2 00064 57.0058 195.1865 0009670 275.6619 84.3358 16.05979206 51
-
- Note: This element set (JSC-005) is valid for orbits 2 through 98.
- Use JSC-006 (below) after 15 Sep 94, 22:51:30 UTC (MET 6/03:49:30).
-
- STS-64
- 1 00064U 94259.01448182 .00096406 00000-0 94275-4 0 62
- 2 00064 57.0059 167.2656 0009343 269.2157 90.7841 16.11240267 1002
-
- Note: This element set (JSC-006) is valid for orbits 99 through 142.
- Use JSC-005 (above) before 15 Sep 94, 22:51:30 UTC (MET 6/03:49:30).
- The deorbit burn is scheduled for 18 Sep at 15:40 UTC (MET 8/20:38).
-
- [Info via Frank Bauer, KA3HDO]
-
-
- * THANKS! *
- ===========
- Thanks to all those who sent messages of appreciation to SpaceNews,
- especially:
-
- WB3CSY WB4MLE WB5PUM ZS5FR
-
- ...and Mike Conley, AA6AE, who posts SpaceNews in the science classroom
- at Huntington Park High School in California, where they are building an
- amateur satellite ground station.
-
-
- * FEEDBACK/INPUT WELCOMED *
- ===========================
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-
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-
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- Department of Engineering and Technology
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-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Sep 94 19:49:45 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: ADDRESS FOR GLB ELECTRONIC?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Does anyone have or know of an address or phone number for GLB electronics? I
- remember that they are somewhere on the East coast. They made Pre-Amp
- preselectors for use in Intermod problems for repeaters. Thanks in advance.
-
- Skip Riba (WS9V)
- Internet: SKIP.RIBA@ACCESSIL.COM
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 03:04:48 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!hookup!nic.ott.hookup.net!takeone!john.rodger@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Comment 05/09/94 23:40
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- -> Hi John: Glad to see the board back up! I was also having problems on
- -> VE3KYT but I guess you know about that. I was getting screenfuls of
- -> garble and it is the first time I have ever had a BBS crash my comms
- -> software!
- -> A query about TakeOne....I think I owe you some money..how much?
- -> A query about VE3KYT...it seems people receiving my messages get garb
- -> and lines that go right off the right-hand edge of the screen. Is the
- -> some terminal emulation and line length that I should be selecting
- -> somewhere from a menu? I couldnt find it.
- ->
- -> Thanks and 73,
- -> Rob, VE3YE
-
- Hi Rob
-
- The weekend was spent trying it install a network here between three
- computers. This is the first time I have ever done this and it did not
- go as well as I had hoped. The main network software is in and running
- but not all of the programs I run here want to play. So we had to put
- the BBS here back to running alone. It's just a memory problem which
- I'm sure will be sorted out this week.
-
- Your first query can be answered by reading bulletin number 6. As for
- the second one, your line length should be set for 79. I think the
- lines are set for 256 in the BBS software. That maybe why some messages
- have the lines running off the end of the page. I just try to remember
- to hit the return key after 65 or 70 characters. As you can see the
- VE3KYT BBS is not as elegent as the TakeOne BBS but it serves its
- purpose very well. Just can't bring myself to taking off the air. So
- many Hams without TNC's find it the only way to get into the Amateur
- Packet network.
-
- 73 de John, VA3CR/VE3KYT
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 12:31:19 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!psuvax1!news.pop.psu.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!newsserver.jvnc.net!cyanamid!ptag1.pt.cyanamid.com!chidesterd@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Cucamonga Club?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- A friend of mine is looking to get into amateur radio. I would like to direct
- him to a club in the Rancho Cucamonga, CA area. Could anyone out there
- knowing of an active club with a training program please Email me... I don't
- always get the News postings.
- Tnx and 73,
- Dale
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Dale H. Chidester, PhD N3HAL "Against stupidity, even the
- American Cyanamid Company Gods in vain doth contend."
- Agricultural Research Divison Schiller
- PO Box 400, Clarksville Rd. Phone: (609) 799-0400 x2430
- Princeton, NJ 08543-0400 Email: chideste@cyanamid.com
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 16:29:45 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!malgudi.oar.net!mercury.wright.edu!gsmith@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: HERE's a tough one for you
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi all:
- Let me throw a curve int the group and see what happens. SO here
- it is, after a little thinking I wonder if a DUAL BAND HIGH GAIN beam is
- possible? if anyone comes up with anything send me the plans so I can
- build it
- Greg, N8PPZ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Sep 94 16:38:37 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Looking for Morse code trainer seen Dayton
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- David <davids@truevision.com> writes:
-
- >At Dayton this year I saw a company that had a very small morse code
- >trainer. This unit was a small box with two push button switches and an
- >earphone. When you turned the unit on, pushing the buttons would change
- >the speed of the random code it sent. I picked up literature, but now I
- >can't find it. Does anyone remember seeing this unit? Do you know who
- >was selling it?
-
- >Thanks!
- >-David N9PGH
-
- I believe you must be asking about the Pocket Morse Code Trainer, mfg by
- Computer Aided Technology Inc. at (214) 350-0888.
- There is an ad for this in Sept CQ on page 100. Prices range from $29 to
- $49. I have tried them both, and am very satisfied.
-
- Marcel KR4CS
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Sep 1994 12:53:33 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!mailer.acns.fsu.edu!freenet3.scri.fsu.edu!freenet2.scri.fsu.edu!sjking@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: New ham - advice IRT 2M
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- W. Clifton Oliver (wco@netcom.com) wrote:
- > I'm a new ham looking to buy his first radio. Since I can only afford
- > one 2M unit right now, the question is do I buy an HT and try to use it
- > as a mobile and in the house, or buy a mobile and use it in the house as
- > a base?
-
- I suppose it would depend on conditions and what you do more of. If
- you are mostly mobile and rarely portable (on foot), or if you are in
- a relatively remote area where repeaters are few and far between, then
- you may want to go mobile. The advantage of a HT is that you can put
- it on your belt and walk around with it and you can always plug it
- into an amplifier, e.g., Ramsey's 2m HT amp, if you need more power
- while mobile. Mobiles aren't as portable. Plus, an HT + amp is
- easier to hide under the seat of your car.
-
- Myself, I only have an HT + amp in the car, which is fine for my
- purposes. I don't need a LOT of power while mobile, just enough to
- hit the next repeater.
-
- Steve
-
-
- --
- Steven King SJKing@Freenet.FSU.EDU | Packet: KC6WCH @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
- V-Mail (904) 375-8658 x5464 | ICBM: 29N 41' 26" / 82W 21' 17"
- ** GORE IN '94 ** | "SURF, KITTY! SURF!"
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 11:41:22 GMT
- From: amd!amdahl!juts.ccc.amdahl.com!szb50@decwrl.dec.com
- Subject: RFI Free PC Computer Cabinet?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I did see a posting quite some time ago, lost it somehow, where
- someone said that after he had sprayed his monitor case and attached
- it to chassis, his problems remained the same. He then tried ferrite
- beads/clamp around various wires going to the monitor and indeed
- found that one of the wires going to a potentiometer on the front
- panel was the culprit.
- I am experiencing the same problems with a new SVGA monitor, the old
- VGA was much quieter, so I will be trying the spray and the ferrite clamp
- treatment to see what works.
- Regards
- Sid... G3VBV ... Amdahl(UK) ...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Sep 1994 14:45:02 GMT
- From: es.com!orca!bmadsen@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Scout Jamboral Radio Station
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The Great Salt Lake Council (based in Salt Lake City, Utah) is having
- its bi-annual "Utah Heritage Jamboral" this year on Sept. 16th and
- 17th. This event draws literally thousands of scouts from throughout
- the council for a couple of days of great activities.
-
- This year they're also organizing and setting up a Ham Radio station,
- and I've been asked to distribute this information:
-
- Ham Radio Operators will find a Talk-In on 145.69. A special event
- station with K2BSA/7 will be operating from 0000 to 1800 GMT September
- 17 on the following frequencies:
- 15 meters 21.395 mc
- 20 meters 14.287 mc
- 40 meters 7.228 mc
- 80 meters 3.870 mc
- Activities will include making contact with other scouts around the
- world and sending messages to friends and family.
-
- Please forward this information to anyone that might be interested;
- they'd love to talk with other scouters around the world.
-
- Although not necessary, I'd be curious to know who'd be willing to
- join the Talk-In. If possible, send e-mail to me.
-
- Thanks!
-
- --
- Bruce Madsen
- Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
- bmadsen@dsd.es.com
-
- . . "You don't raise heroes; you
- . * . raise sons. And if you treat
- them like sons they'll turn out
- . . to be heroes, even if it's just
- in your eyes"
- "I used to be a bear..." - W. Schirra
- WE2-590-4-92
-
- Currently serving as Charted Organization Representative
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:41:09 GMT
- From: titan!news@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: University Club Mailing List
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- What is the current site of the University Amateur Radio club mail reflector?
-
-
- Thanks.
-
-
- Robert, KA5WSS
- barron@rmc.liant.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 13:06:41 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!galaxy.ucr.edu!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!jchandle@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CvMsKJ.MB4@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <34fpr2$7va@news.iastate.edu>, <1994Sep6.014116.15855@ultb.isc.rit.edu>dle
- Subject : Re: A Repeater on 147.555?!?
-
- In article <1994Sep6.014116.15855@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jdc3538@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.D. Cronin) writes:
- >The only place I'd like to see more repeaters are on less-used bands
- >to entice more people to use something besides 2 meters.
- >
- >73...Jim N2VNO
- >
-
-
- The other bands are boring and there is no one to talk to there anyway.
- Two meters is the place to be. Even HF is boring.
-
- BTW, anyone want to sell any of there boring HF, 440 or 1.2 stuff?
- --
- Jim Chandler, N0VAH/AE
- jchandle@netcom.com
- finger netcom for public key
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 6 Sep 1994 15:09:53 GMT
- From: psinntp!arrl.org!jbloom@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CvBo19.FsG@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <1994Aug31.145924.17054@arrl.org>, <gregCvGGoD.6sM@netcom.com>oom
- Subject : Re: Thanks, ARRL
-
- Greg Bullough (greg@netcom.com) wrote:
- : In article <1994Aug31.145924.17054@arrl.org> ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare (KA1CV)) writes:
- : > Even more sadly, I have seen us criticized
- : >*appropriately* on this forum *instead* of having the "constructive
- : >criticism" directed to the appropriate staff or to your Division
- : >Director who *can* change League policy.
-
- : Now this is VERY inappropriate. It comes across as trying to quash League
- : Members' and other Radio Amateurs' expresssion of their thoughts in a
- : public forum of their own choosing. For years, the staff, directors,
- : and officers have had a forum of their own, QST, and have filtered
- : dissenting opinions rather high-handedly. In fact, they frequently used
- : the journal to belittle dissenting opinions.
-
- Greg, you are misreading Ed's posting. The word "instead" in his text
- is important. I know that Ed has no problem--nor do I--with people
- posting criticism of ARRL here. What bothers him--and me--is that
- people seem to think that posting here is all that is necessary. That's
- not true because 1) many of the Directors don't read this forum, and 2)
- a personal communication will always be more likely to result in action
- than an undirected one. What Ed wants is for members to state their
- opinions directly to the people who are in policy-making positions,
- whatever those opinions may be, in *addition* to participating in
- whatever dialogue they find useful--here or elsewhere. In no way does
- he intend to stifle dissent or conversation on Usenet.
-
- : Ed, I don't know if it's what you intend, but it comes across as if
- : you are saying 'go through channels, where we can decide what spin to
- : put on your expression of opinion...'
-
- No, he's saying, "go through channels where it will do some good."
-
- : As a organization run by the Membership, the League doesn't have the
- : luxury of putting on blinders. At this point, I frankly expect my
- : Division Director to be reading this forum (I'm willing to see
- : the League foot the bill for an account, which may also be used
- : for League business-related e-mail, if that's what it takes) in
- : order to stay in touch with what people are saying about things.
-
- This is rather a Usenet-centric point of view. What about the
- Compuserve, Genie, AOL, etc forums? Aren't the members there entitled
- to the same treatment? And, if so, just how many hours per day do you
- expect the Directors to spend trolling the electronic forums? This,
- mind you, along with their attendance almost every weekend (in some
- cases) at hamfests, conventions and radio club meetings in their
- divisions. And maybe even a bit of time on the air. In short, there are
- a lot of places where amateurs congregate and Directors can listen to
- member opinions. Demanding that Usenet be primary among those places is
- unreasonable.
- --
- Jon Bloom KE3Z jbloom@arrl.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 6 Sep 1994 17:12:02 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!hopscotch.ksr.com!jfw@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <gregCvGGoD.6sM@netcom.com>, <3454no$odc$1@mhadg.inhouse.compuserve.com>, <gregCvIK4H.9np@netcom.com>ear
- Subject : Re: Thanks, ARRL
-
- greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
- >In article <3454no$odc$1@mhadg.inhouse.compuserve.com> Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> writes:
- >>There are a kazillion (that's a whole bunch) places, including
- >>here, where members are expressing their opinion. ARRL elected
- >>folks and HQ staff can't be in ALL those places, although they
- >>are in a lot.
- >I'd beg to differ. There're very few forums like this one, so
- >globally available, where
-
- people can rant and rave without having the
- faintest idea of what they are talking about, in such quantity that it's
- scarcely worth keeping up with. No wonder they don't have an official
- presence.
-
- Ed didn't say "write your Division Director and don't post", he just said
- "write your Division Director". Once you do that, I'm sure Ed doesn't care
- whether you ALSO post it, nail it to a church door, or hire a skywriter to
- write an Estonian translation of your message over every major US city.
- But if you want your Division Director to see your complaint, you know how
- to contact your Division Director. Demanding that the DD wade through
- MAKE`GREEN`CARDS`FAST and Does SWR Change With Line Color and even
- "Re: Thanks, ARRL" just in case you accidently say something you'd like
- him to read is just senseless.
-
- USENET is just a hobby.
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